1 00:00:05,990 --> 00:00:03,510 hello here's a fun little uh ufo case 2 00:00:10,470 --> 00:00:06,000 this one here tic tac ufo film from a 3 00:00:12,070 --> 00:00:10,480 plane over lake michigan october 2021 4 00:00:14,549 --> 00:00:12,080 uh it's 5 00:00:16,950 --> 00:00:14,559 interesting because it looks like a 6 00:00:19,109 --> 00:00:16,960 tic tac shape kind of an oval shape and 7 00:00:21,429 --> 00:00:19,119 i thought at first that it was a fake 8 00:00:22,870 --> 00:00:21,439 because it kind of looks like 9 00:00:25,830 --> 00:00:22,880 the classic 10 00:00:27,349 --> 00:00:25,840 ufo that they have in this ufo app on 11 00:00:29,349 --> 00:00:27,359 the iphone where you can add in a fake 12 00:00:31,029 --> 00:00:29,359 ufo to videos 13 00:00:32,630 --> 00:00:31,039 but you can kind of see if you keep 14 00:00:34,150 --> 00:00:32,640 watching it it 15 00:00:36,709 --> 00:00:34,160 actually changed shape and you can see 16 00:00:39,510 --> 00:00:36,719 it's kind of flying away from the plane 17 00:00:42,150 --> 00:00:39,520 off into the distance and now the good 18 00:00:43,910 --> 00:00:42,160 thing about this video and this is a 19 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:43,920 little bit unusual actually is that we 20 00:00:48,470 --> 00:00:45,760 actually have some good information 21 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:48,480 about when it was taken and uh what what 22 00:00:53,590 --> 00:00:51,280 plane it was and uh and this description 23 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:53,600 here on let's see 24 00:00:57,830 --> 00:00:55,440 latest ufo sighting is that what it's 25 00:01:00,470 --> 00:00:57,840 called i guess so 26 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:00,480 uh we have this description here tic tac 27 00:01:05,670 --> 00:01:03,120 ufo scene from airplane while flying 28 00:01:09,030 --> 00:01:05,680 over lake michigan over grand rapids 29 00:01:13,830 --> 00:01:09,040 area was on flight united airlines 267 30 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:13,840 from boston to denver on october 17 2021 31 00:01:19,270 --> 00:01:15,920 seating in a window seat looking north 32 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:19,280 as we flew over lake michigan at 8 50 33 00:01:25,030 --> 00:01:21,439 local time spotted below the plane and 34 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:25,040 several miles away a tic-tac-ufo 35 00:01:28,149 --> 00:01:26,799 the object was flying east which is in 36 00:01:30,469 --> 00:01:28,159 the opposite direction because they're 37 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:30,479 flying uh towards the west towards 38 00:01:33,590 --> 00:01:31,600 denver 39 00:01:35,270 --> 00:01:33,600 flying east and had no features no wings 40 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:35,280 no windows no tail no exhaust no flight 41 00:01:39,350 --> 00:01:37,360 services etc etc white and cylindrical 42 00:01:40,550 --> 00:01:39,360 recorded it for a minute disappeared to 43 00:01:41,910 --> 00:01:40,560 the east because it was going behind 44 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:41,920 them obviously it would just disappear 45 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:43,200 it doesn't mean it disappeared it just 46 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:44,320 means it 47 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:46,320 was going in the opposite direction 48 00:01:50,630 --> 00:01:49,119 it did seem to change elevation or speed 49 00:01:52,870 --> 00:01:50,640 i think that means did not because they 50 00:01:55,670 --> 00:01:52,880 put ore speed 51 00:01:56,789 --> 00:01:55,680 all right so uh what is this this um 52 00:01:59,510 --> 00:01:56,799 this took me 53 00:02:00,870 --> 00:01:59,520 15 minutes or so to track down and it's 54 00:02:02,630 --> 00:02:00,880 it's a plane 55 00:02:03,749 --> 00:02:02,640 which is kind of surprising because you 56 00:02:05,429 --> 00:02:03,759 know you look at this it doesn't look 57 00:02:09,109 --> 00:02:05,439 like a plane it looks like some kind of 58 00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:09,119 weird um egg shaped tick tic tac shaped 59 00:02:13,430 --> 00:02:11,520 thing isn't this it's uh but it is in 60 00:02:15,589 --> 00:02:13,440 fact just a plain now the reason it 61 00:02:17,430 --> 00:02:15,599 looks like this is that it's a very low 62 00:02:19,750 --> 00:02:17,440 resolution video 63 00:02:21,670 --> 00:02:19,760 and it's digital zoom 64 00:02:24,229 --> 00:02:21,680 and we have a bright object lit by the 65 00:02:27,350 --> 00:02:24,239 sun and experience has shown that when 66 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:27,360 you have a cell phone uh zoomed in as 67 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:30,000 far as you can with digital zoom on a 68 00:02:34,630 --> 00:02:32,160 white bright white plane it just shows 69 00:02:36,309 --> 00:02:34,640 up as a kind of cigar-shaped or 70 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:36,319 tic-tac-shaped object and there's lots 71 00:02:39,509 --> 00:02:37,760 of examples 72 00:02:40,309 --> 00:02:39,519 of this 73 00:02:42,229 --> 00:02:40,319 but 74 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:42,239 which plane is it now we can actually 75 00:02:47,910 --> 00:02:45,760 figure that out and the way i did it was 76 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:47,920 the most useful information was the fact 77 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:49,120 that we know what 78 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:52,239 what plane uh the camera guy is on he's 79 00:02:57,869 --> 00:02:55,120 on united airlines 267. 80 00:03:00,030 --> 00:02:57,879 so what i did was i went into this site 81 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:00,040 flightaware.com i went to 82 00:03:05,350 --> 00:03:03,120 united 267 83 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:05,360 and it's going to show me that flight 84 00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:06,159 now 85 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:07,760 this is just showing me the flight from 86 00:03:14,869 --> 00:03:11,200 today and we want the flight from uh was 87 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:14,879 it october the 17th 88 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:17,280 and so let's go down scroll down find 89 00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:20,080 that one keep going down stops october 90 00:03:23,589 --> 00:03:22,080 21st but we can click here view more 91 00:03:25,509 --> 00:03:23,599 flight history 92 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:25,519 october the 17th right here you can see 93 00:03:30,149 --> 00:03:27,120 i've already clicked on it 94 00:03:31,830 --> 00:03:30,159 click october the 17th it will give you 95 00:03:34,390 --> 00:03:31,840 that particular flight so here he is 96 00:03:35,830 --> 00:03:34,400 from boston to denver and this is the 97 00:03:37,030 --> 00:03:35,840 region we're looking at here grand 98 00:03:38,890 --> 00:03:37,040 rapids 99 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:38,900 uh we want that so 100 00:03:42,710 --> 00:03:40,319 [Music] 101 00:03:45,030 --> 00:03:42,720 what i like to do is grab this into a 102 00:03:47,670 --> 00:03:45,040 format i can view in google earth now to 103 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:47,680 do that it's a little fiddly on here but 104 00:03:52,470 --> 00:03:48,799 you go to 105 00:03:56,550 --> 00:03:54,630 and this shows you the track log 106 00:03:58,630 --> 00:03:56,560 position you know the coordinates and 107 00:04:00,949 --> 00:03:58,640 the altitude and everything but then you 108 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:00,959 can click on this little google earth 109 00:04:05,270 --> 00:04:03,360 uh link here and it will download the 110 00:04:06,789 --> 00:04:05,280 actual flight track in google earth 111 00:04:07,990 --> 00:04:06,799 which is very handy 112 00:04:10,470 --> 00:04:08,000 so 113 00:04:14,429 --> 00:04:10,480 i took that and stuck it into google 114 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:14,439 earth and here it is 115 00:04:20,789 --> 00:04:18,560 e9267 from boston to denver and what we 116 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:20,799 want is when they're going over the 117 00:04:25,189 --> 00:04:23,600 grand rapids area here just about to go 118 00:04:28,390 --> 00:04:25,199 over that and 119 00:04:30,150 --> 00:04:28,400 they said the time was um 120 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:30,160 8.50 121 00:04:33,350 --> 00:04:31,840 now they didn't specify 122 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:33,360 uh they said local time but they didn't 123 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:36,080 say which time zone that was but you 124 00:04:40,710 --> 00:04:38,320 figure it out just moved it to here it 125 00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:40,720 shows up 8 50. it's actually pacific 126 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:42,080 time for some reason i'm not sure 127 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:44,080 exactly why they considered that to be a 128 00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:46,160 local time perhaps they were going 129 00:04:52,150 --> 00:04:49,520 uh to california but it's it was 8 50 130 00:04:53,830 --> 00:04:52,160 local time they were in this location so 131 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:53,840 what we want to do is find out what 132 00:04:58,950 --> 00:04:56,560 other planes were in this location and 133 00:05:01,670 --> 00:04:58,960 specifically planes that are at a lower 134 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:01,680 altitude than this one and to do that i 135 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:05,840 use flight radar 24 and we can replay 136 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:07,600 now i've got a 137 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:09,280 business account which i get for free 138 00:05:13,909 --> 00:05:10,720 just for running a 139 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:13,919 um adsb listening station on an old 140 00:05:19,029 --> 00:05:16,560 raspberry pi computer but you can sign 141 00:05:21,749 --> 00:05:19,039 up for a free trial if you want to 142 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:21,759 give this a go yourself and i think the 143 00:05:25,670 --> 00:05:23,680 the standard playback is he's not too 144 00:05:27,430 --> 00:05:25,680 expensive or get yourself a raspberry pi 145 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:27,440 anyway so you go to playback i'm going 146 00:05:32,469 --> 00:05:28,880 to go to 147 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:35,909 and we need to convert that time into 148 00:05:39,990 --> 00:05:38,400 utc because this uses utc and it's 149 00:05:42,390 --> 00:05:40,000 actually 150 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:42,400 1550 151 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:44,800 in utc this is a little fiddly and 152 00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:45,919 you've got to double check you've got 153 00:05:50,070 --> 00:05:48,320 the right time but in this case this is 154 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:50,080 the correct time so let's just pause it 155 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:52,320 there and let's find our plane there it 156 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:56,639 is right there united airlines 267. 157 00:06:01,029 --> 00:05:59,039 it's just backing up a little bit here 158 00:06:03,029 --> 00:06:01,039 this is it flying oh we're just starting 159 00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:03,039 to fly over the lake and we see another 160 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:05,039 plane right here 161 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:07,360 so let's just pause right here now this 162 00:06:11,749 --> 00:06:10,080 plane here is delta airlines two four 163 00:06:13,990 --> 00:06:11,759 seven four this is our playing with the 164 00:06:16,150 --> 00:06:14,000 camera united two six seven 165 00:06:19,590 --> 00:06:16,160 two six seven which is at what is it 166 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:19,600 it's at uh thirty five thousand feet 167 00:06:26,070 --> 00:06:24,000 and this plane is at 23 000 feet so 168 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:26,080 they're actually looking down on this 169 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:28,160 plane which means a very good candidate 170 00:06:31,749 --> 00:06:29,600 also look at the plane itself it's 171 00:06:33,430 --> 00:06:31,759 bright white it's got a long fuselage 172 00:06:35,749 --> 00:06:33,440 and it has this fairly 173 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:35,759 essentially short smaller wings it's a 174 00:06:41,909 --> 00:06:40,000 small plane it's uh boeing 717 200. 175 00:06:44,710 --> 00:06:41,919 so this is an ideal candidate this is an 176 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:44,720 ideal candidate for the the what we 177 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:47,280 might be looking at and if we continue 178 00:06:50,870 --> 00:06:49,280 to play this is a guy looking out to the 179 00:06:52,230 --> 00:06:50,880 window he's looking down at this plane 180 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:52,240 and he's looking back and he'll be 181 00:06:55,270 --> 00:06:54,080 seeing these fields and things 182 00:06:57,029 --> 00:06:55,280 over here and then they'll eventually 183 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:57,039 lose sight of it as it just gets too far 184 00:07:01,270 --> 00:06:59,919 behind him so now we can go back to 185 00:07:02,950 --> 00:07:01,280 uh 186 00:07:05,189 --> 00:07:02,960 flightaware.com and we can do the same 187 00:07:05,909 --> 00:07:05,199 thing and we can get the 188 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:05,919 the 189 00:07:11,110 --> 00:07:08,639 track log for that light 190 00:07:13,830 --> 00:07:11,120 so let's 191 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:13,840 bring that up 192 00:07:18,150 --> 00:07:15,680 and we see them cross over there and we 193 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:18,160 can move back the time so that they're 194 00:07:22,469 --> 00:07:20,880 like this and we can see 195 00:07:24,070 --> 00:07:22,479 there we have 196 00:07:26,230 --> 00:07:24,080 both planes 197 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:26,240 just crossing and you can see 198 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:28,080 if we're up on this plane we'll be 199 00:07:31,749 --> 00:07:30,080 looking down at this plane and we'll see 200 00:07:34,070 --> 00:07:31,759 some fields behind but you know which 201 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:34,080 fields which fields will be looking at 202 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:36,960 let's uh look at the video again 203 00:07:39,670 --> 00:07:38,479 so this is right at the start of the 204 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:39,680 video and there's some fairly 205 00:07:43,270 --> 00:07:41,680 distinctive things here 206 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:43,280 if we just play through the first few 207 00:07:46,950 --> 00:07:45,120 seconds of the video 208 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:46,960 we see it kind of zip over this this 209 00:07:50,469 --> 00:07:48,560 region here 210 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:50,479 and it looks like a 211 00:07:53,189 --> 00:07:52,000 field or it's actually i think a 212 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:53,199 reservoir 213 00:07:57,189 --> 00:07:56,400 and it's divided into two halves and you 214 00:07:59,670 --> 00:07:57,199 see 215 00:08:00,710 --> 00:07:59,680 a very distinctive shape and then 216 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:00,720 there's some 217 00:08:04,309 --> 00:08:02,800 circular irrigation fields 218 00:08:05,990 --> 00:08:04,319 behind it over there so that's like a 219 00:08:08,469 --> 00:08:06,000 very handy thing we can use to actually 220 00:08:11,029 --> 00:08:08,479 kind of geolocate exactly what we're 221 00:08:12,469 --> 00:08:11,039 looking at and it turns out 222 00:08:14,390 --> 00:08:12,479 that 223 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:14,400 is right there 224 00:08:18,309 --> 00:08:16,720 that is this 225 00:08:20,070 --> 00:08:18,319 uh 226 00:08:23,510 --> 00:08:20,080 set of 227 00:08:27,909 --> 00:08:26,790 and these fields over here are these 228 00:08:29,029 --> 00:08:27,919 fields 229 00:08:30,469 --> 00:08:29,039 right 230 00:08:32,709 --> 00:08:30,479 here 231 00:08:35,029 --> 00:08:32,719 and we can uh if you want to you can go 232 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:35,039 in and see exactly what lines up with 233 00:08:39,670 --> 00:08:37,200 everything but the fun thing we can do 234 00:08:42,070 --> 00:08:39,680 here is if we go back to 235 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:42,080 where the united flight is and then we 236 00:08:45,590 --> 00:08:44,000 lined up the two 237 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:45,600 flight tracks 238 00:08:49,269 --> 00:08:47,120 like this you see here so they're both 239 00:08:51,910 --> 00:08:49,279 lined up you see 240 00:08:53,509 --> 00:08:51,920 the ground track which is you know where 241 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:53,519 if you think of the two tracks being 242 00:08:58,710 --> 00:08:56,640 lined up any line drawn from one to the 243 00:09:00,870 --> 00:08:58,720 other will show you where you're looking 244 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:00,880 at on the ground it goes straight over 245 00:09:06,310 --> 00:09:03,680 this reservoir in exactly the same way 246 00:09:07,350 --> 00:09:06,320 as uh this little 247 00:09:09,829 --> 00:09:07,360 tic tac 248 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:09,839 apparent thing actually does 249 00:09:13,269 --> 00:09:12,160 so uh that's that's essentially it 250 00:09:15,430 --> 00:09:13,279 really it's 251 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:15,440 it was a it was fun because when as soon 252 00:09:18,710 --> 00:09:17,120 as i found this little lake it was it 253 00:09:20,949 --> 00:09:18,720 was obvious because 254 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:20,959 you can tell that it lines up with the 255 00:09:25,269 --> 00:09:22,959 two tracks you know this 256 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:25,279 going straight down there 257 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:27,360 and it's fairly obvious from just 258 00:09:31,030 --> 00:09:28,880 looking at the plane and looking at 259 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:31,040 other planes this is what planes look 260 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:33,360 like when they're in low resolution 261 00:09:40,150 --> 00:09:36,480 so there you go ufo video solved it was 262 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:40,160 in fact delta airlines 2474 263 00:09:43,430 --> 00:09:42,240 flying in the opposite direction and